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Really underdiscussed how Halloween is dying YoY

Love seeing it DOA every year c. 2020, finally ppl were give...
twisted stage
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twisted stage
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would love to experience the rich inner world that leads to ...
amethyst national
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Transparent Coldplay Fan
  02/02/25
noone talks about it till the day of - then its over in a ma...
twisted stage
  02/02/25
stores start selling HW crap the day after labor day bc ther...
Histrionic New Version
  02/02/25
Wtf are you basing this on? You being an adult shut in with ...
Diverse space
  02/02/25
OP addresses that - people are embracing the GC plastic crap...
Transparent Coldplay Fan
  02/02/25
I live in one of those neighborhoods and i get several hundr...
Diverse space
  02/02/25
"I think people do not stay local anymore" this...
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twisted stage
  02/07/25
Very cool, glad I spent $100 on candy for illegals and black...
twisted stage
  02/07/25
He’s running some “back in my day. . .” sc...
Rusted narrow-minded psychic box office
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Eat a cock you foreign fag
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Twinkling unhinged locale useless brakes
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We traded mischief for outright violent crime from “te...
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lemon embarrassed to the bone mad cow disease volcanic crater
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You need to go back to China
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Fantasy-prone Indigo Casino
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the trunk or treating thing is some of the lamest shit I've ...
flesh stirring prole
  02/02/25
There is some of this going on to be sure. But like the m...
outnumbered razzmatazz menage
  02/02/25
Halloween has been gay as shit the past five years
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twisted stage
  02/07/25
Trick or treat is still a big thing in my neighborhood and t...
Misunderstood concupiscible address
  02/07/25
wtf? sit outside their own place on porch?
twisted stage
  02/07/25
yea or in the driveway. we did that this year and was more ...
Misunderstood concupiscible address
  02/07/25
Whether you think Halloween is dying or thriving is a subtle...
Hairraiser place of business range
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Im a 40 yo Somali non lawyer & not even from the United ...
twisted stage
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People have no idea what time period I'm actually poasting f...
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twisted stage
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No point in playing dress up when half the country is bone i...
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Rampart
  10/22/25
In my lib utopia Halloween is a month long event. There are ...
razzle-dazzle dull haunted graveyard parlor
  02/07/25
Halloween is huge in my neighborhood
Vibrant kitchen cuckold
  02/07/25
Halloween is a satanic holiday that no Christians should be ...
impressive business firm
  02/07/25
ljl @ it dying bc everyone came to God? ppl hate being outsi...
twisted stage
  02/07/25
We’re friends with several families in the neighborhoo...
impressive business firm
  02/07/25
"please dont make me visit ur home w my kids ...and don...
twisted stage
  02/07/25
Their kids are at our house all the time and vice versa. We ...
impressive business firm
  02/07/25
You need to go back to Israel
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Overrated maize spot
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dashing impertinent national security agency half-breed
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lmaod my ass off at this wtf
soul-stirring big-titted degenerate gas station
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Neighbor - Ha wow that's a scary costume. Trick or treat! L...
dashing impertinent national security agency half-breed
  02/07/25
This is not true at all ime
Flirting regret
  02/07/25
i think the bigger problem is with 'trick or treating'. this...
Deranged arousing pisswyrm
  02/07/25
White people dont exist anymore
twisted stage
  02/07/25
(Tejano)
amethyst national
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Totally agree. Things are terrible because my politics woul...
dun locus
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As a kid it was a night you could go out after dark with you...
ultramarine wagecucks
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^^solid dad right here. Moms are so inclined to go to th...
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ultramarine wagecucks
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you voted for all of this
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wtf
twisted stage
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As we knew it. And thats fine. People with kids and people w...
Deranged arousing pisswyrm
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Sounds like the experience of poasting on Autoadmit, 180
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twisted stage
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every single zog parasitized american holiday has been compl...
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Is it really the root tho? I feel like the hollowing out com...
twisted stage
  09/30/25
it's a loop. the deracination is from market derived alienat...
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Date: February 2nd, 2025 4:59 AM
Author: twisted stage

Love seeing it DOA every year c. 2020, finally ppl were given carte blanche to GIVE UP. dont believe its an economic thing. Pretty cheap to go outside walk around in rags/scream mask etc.

Total societal disintegration, no cohesion, no trust, beyond that, people simply dont even like strangers, their deracinated ugly dusky 'neighbors' etc. Its hilarious.

People cope that it "isnt dying" but "evolving" (house parties) more secluded, for adult children, its less about the 'scary' and more about the social GC plastic garbage commercial side of things for deracinated mutts etc but this is all a red herring, shits falling apart @ the seams IRL across board, noone even has friends anymore

I genuinely pray for disasters which force people to DEAL w the reality of hundreds of racial alien strangers occupying / living in close proximity to them with which they have zero cultural common ground with other than manufactured global village consumerist garbage that deep down noone enjoys. Im sad Trump won so the power grid wont get cut out and shit but hey, give it a few decades? maybe when AI is slurping up electricity, MMAYBEEEE goy will be COMPLETELY FUCKED then *crosses fingers* & will have to walking dead style communicate/collaborate with all these racial subalterns theyve been living in monastic silence with hoping it would fix itself

I really really want to see people in pain, Florida storm and LA fires have been holding me over for now, schadenfreude humiliation, goy forced to deal with their neighbors. Im a really weird guy. James Woods crying over his house got me hard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48614217)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 8:27 AM
Author: twisted stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48614331)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 8:37 AM
Author: amethyst national

would love to experience the rich inner world that leads to a halloween is dying screed at 5am on a weekend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48614341)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 8:38 AM
Author: Transparent Coldplay Fan



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48614343)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 8:42 AM
Author: twisted stage

noone talks about it till the day of - then its over in a matter of hours, escapes all scrutiny every single year.

need people WOKE on the Halloween Q this time around 5 years out from COVID now. no more coping.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48614350)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 9:31 AM
Author: Histrionic New Version

stores start selling HW crap the day after labor day bc there's no other holidays. goyim in our are country neighborhood deck their houses out in HW shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48614465)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 10:06 AM
Author: Diverse space

Wtf are you basing this on? You being an adult shut in with no parties to go to and no kids?

Halloween spending has gone insane in recent years..

https://www.bu.edu/articles/2024/why-is-halloween-spending-growing/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48614550)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: Transparent Coldplay Fan

OP addresses that - people are embracing the GC plastic crap aspect of Halloween but not the children trick or treating in a safe, mostly white, neighborhood.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48614557)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 10:26 AM
Author: Diverse space

I live in one of those neighborhoods and i get several hundred trick or treaters. I think people do not stay local anymore so there's a higher concentration of trick or treaters in "nice neighborhoods"

Plus there's tons of "trunk or treat" events and similar stuff in other neighborhoods.

I just don't get what the OP is based on. The only objective measure is way up, and my kids have like dozens of Halloween events between school, the neighborhood, church.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48614601)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: Twinkling unhinged locale useless brakes

"I think people do not stay local anymore"

this is all part of the death of halloween. you used to have your white neighbors showing up in cute costumes. make a bit of small talk, etc. now it's transient mercenary mudspawn being bussed in to demand their yearly tithe after which they will disappear until next year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48633460)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 2:37 PM
Author: twisted stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48633491)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: twisted stage

Very cool, glad I spent $100 on candy for illegals and blacks Who don’t live in my neighborhood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48633502)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 10:43 AM
Author: Rusted narrow-minded psychic box office

He’s running some “back in my day. . .” schtick. Kids running around unsupervised, eggs, TP and shaving cream everywhere. That’s over. And for good reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48614627)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 8:56 AM
Author: Misunderstood concupiscible address

Eat a cock you foreign fag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48631888)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 10:38 AM
Author: Plum Kink-friendly Feces Forum



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Date: February 7th, 2025 2:29 PM
Author: Twinkling unhinged locale useless brakes



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Date: February 7th, 2025 8:58 AM
Author: Onyx rigpig kitty cat

We traded mischief for outright violent crime from “teens”

Oh what a good outcome

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48631894)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 10:22 AM
Author: lemon embarrassed to the bone mad cow disease volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48632150)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: black contagious native hominid

You need to go back to China

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48632992)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 1:53 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone Indigo Casino



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48633330)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: flesh stirring prole

the trunk or treating thing is some of the lamest shit I've ever known to exist. proles just can't get away from Cars lol.

that being said, whatever brings Boomers the most pain, misery and discomfort has my unyielding support.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48614588)



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Date: February 2nd, 2025 10:41 AM
Author: outnumbered razzmatazz menage

There is some of this going on to be sure.

But like the meme says, “Society is on the verge of collapse” usually means “my personal life is shit.”

If you had five kids, Halloween and Christmas and such would be magical again for you. These child-holidays get a little empty in your 20s, but should come back roaring when you see them through your child’s eyes of wonder in your 30s.

Have moar kids!



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48614621)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 9:01 AM
Author: Multi-colored carmine school incel

Halloween has been gay as shit the past five years



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48631902)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: twisted stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48631876)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 9:48 AM
Author: Misunderstood concupiscible address

Trick or treat is still a big thing in my neighborhood and there are a bunch of weirdos who go full powergoy with the massive decorations and shit. We actually put up orange and purple xmas style lights this year.

ever since covid more ppl sit outside vs. coming to the door. that's about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48632026)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 10:03 AM
Author: twisted stage

wtf? sit outside their own place on porch?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48632084)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 12:20 PM
Author: Misunderstood concupiscible address

yea or in the driveway. we did that this year and was more fun than opening the door every couple of minutes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48632965)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: Hairraiser place of business range

Whether you think Halloween is dying or thriving is a subtle prole tell. In affluent walkable safe neighborhoods Halloween is thriving as fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48632095)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: twisted stage

Im a 40 yo Somali non lawyer & not even from the United States/never even been, I'm from Somalia, this is not flame, noone ever takes this at face value so I can get away with this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48632105)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 10:17 AM
Author: Hairraiser place of business range

People have no idea what time period I'm actually poasting from. There are unstated temporal assumptions that people simply hold when they engage in semi-anonymous online interactions which may or may not actually be true.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48632134)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 10:34 AM
Author: twisted stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48632194)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Overrated maize spot

No point in playing dress up when half the country is bone in nose niggers, mookadooks with turbans, weird hat kikes, trannies, etc. any “normal” day today is basically Halloween in the 90s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48632113)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: Twinkling unhinged locale useless brakes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48633465)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: twisted stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48633531)



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Date: October 22nd, 2025 5:56 PM
Author: Rampart ( )



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Date: February 7th, 2025 10:18 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle dull haunted graveyard parlor

In my lib utopia Halloween is a month long event. There are no kids as far as the eye can see but all month the streets are full of blue haired email girls dressed as SpongeBob.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48632135)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: Vibrant kitchen cuckold

Halloween is huge in my neighborhood

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48632143)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: impressive business firm

Halloween is a satanic holiday that no Christians should be celebrating.

I live in an all white town and our neighborhood has ton of kids, trick or treating was yuge pre and during “Covid”. Last couple of years it’s been dying off because Christians are finally waking up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48632146)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 12:25 PM
Author: twisted stage

ljl @ it dying bc everyone came to God? ppl hate being outside

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48632978)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: impressive business firm

We’re friends with several families in the neighborhood and they stopped celebrating H specifically because of that. Of course I can’t speak for the others.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48633285)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 1:40 PM
Author: twisted stage

"please dont make me visit ur home w my kids ...and dont visit me ...we've ... got religion now ..thx"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48633291)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 1:50 PM
Author: impressive business firm

Their kids are at our house all the time and vice versa. We just don’t play dress up one day out of year any more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48633324)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 12:28 PM
Author: black contagious native hominid

You need to go back to Israel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48632990)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 1:13 PM
Author: Overrated maize spot



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Date: February 7th, 2025 1:54 PM
Author: dashing impertinent national security agency half-breed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48633331)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 1:54 PM
Author: soul-stirring big-titted degenerate gas station

lmaod my ass off at this wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48633333)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 1:55 PM
Author: dashing impertinent national security agency half-breed

Neighbor - Ha wow that's a scary costume. Trick or treat!

LSD - ?? I'm not wearing a costume

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48633337)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 12:37 PM
Author: Flirting regret

This is not true at all ime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48633029)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 1:58 PM
Author: Deranged arousing pisswyrm

i think the bigger problem is with 'trick or treating'. this activity should be outlawed. Instead, safe and wholesome house parties with kids under 10 should take it place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48633344)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 2:05 PM
Author: twisted stage

White people dont exist anymore

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48633367)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 2:21 PM
Author: amethyst national

(Tejano)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48633413)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 2:06 PM
Author: dun locus

Totally agree. Things are terrible because my politics would be wrong if they weren't terrible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48633370)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 2:53 PM
Author: ultramarine wagecucks

As a kid it was a night you could go out after dark with your friends with the expectation of some sort of adventure, independence, freedom, chaos etc.

Now, it's a controlled environment supervised by parents: a totally sterilized experience for the kids. I wasn't able to this year, but i try to make sure that after they get home from whatever group activity my wife brings them to, we still go out around our neighborhood. My older ones are just about at the age they can go without me.

Along the same lines, I encourage them to go on bike rides around our neighborhood with their friends and won't let them have phones until they are teenagers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48633660)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: Bistre Mexican Office

^^solid dad right here.

Moms are so inclined to go to these stupid parties at school, trunk or treats, shopping mall / plaza / downtown events, but those all totally miss the mark of what’s special about that night for kids who are 5-13/14/15. Fine to go to those things in addition, but not as substitutes for the fun of walking around your neighborhood, running into people you know, houses all decorated, etc. and all focused on those 2-3 hours for kids in that pretty narrow age band.

My kids go to a diverse school (in the real meaning, not the xo meaning) and there are lots of people who don’t celebrate Christmas—*all* the kids (even the Jews) celebrate Halloween. It’s probably the biggest event of the year for kids of a certain age. They talk about it for 2 months before and obsess about it for the weeks leading up to it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48634069)



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Date: February 7th, 2025 4:43 PM
Author: ultramarine wagecucks



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Date: February 7th, 2025 3:55 PM
Author: Misunderstood concupiscible address

you voted for all of this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#48634077)



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Date: June 15th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: twisted stage

wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#49018178)



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Date: June 15th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Deranged arousing pisswyrm

As we knew it. And thats fine. People with kids and people who drink still get together to celebrate the ridiculousness of it while larping as a better version of themselves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#49018193)



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Date: June 15th, 2025 4:58 PM
Author: blue nibblets

Sounds like the experience of poasting on Autoadmit, 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#49018196)



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Date: September 29th, 2025 4:35 PM
Author: twisted stage



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Date: September 30th, 2025 6:50 AM
Author: twisted stage



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Date: September 30th, 2025 7:16 AM
Author: black contagious native hominid

every single zog parasitized american holiday has been completely hollowed out by consumerism and market grifts to the point of public apathy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#49313739)



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Date: September 30th, 2025 7:19 AM
Author: twisted stage

Is it really the root tho? I feel like the hollowing out comes after the deracination

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#49313744)



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Date: September 30th, 2025 7:21 AM
Author: black contagious native hominid

it's a loop. the deracination is from market derived alienation, and i agree with marx on that much

when "christmas" and its symbols are subsumed by coca cola bears and mall santas you don't really have much of what causes the holiday to stand on its own in the public mind

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#49313747)



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Date: October 22nd, 2025 5:52 PM
Author: am i allowed to have kids



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5674125&forum_id=2#49366989)