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Mass Effect Andromeda singlehandedly killed a very promising scifi IP

Brutal mismanagement of something that potentially had a lot...
big parlor double fault
  05/02/22
https://youtu.be/5b6qH48bslA
big parlor double fault
  05/02/22
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big parlor double fault
  05/03/22
Huge hype leading up to it, nearly unprecedented for a video...
heady walnut cruise ship ape
  05/02/22
Which is insane given that EA was keenly aware of the develo...
big parlor double fault
  05/02/22
EA makes shitty games exclusively ime
fragrant menage
  05/03/22
We're talking about EA as publisher, not as an EA-created st...
big parlor double fault
  05/03/22
That’s even worse. They just crack the whip on Nerds. ...
fragrant menage
  05/03/22
Well the games got pretty bad after the release of 2 but up ...
big parlor double fault
  05/03/22
But ME1 was exclusive to 360. It MUST be intellectually vaca...
fragrant menage
  05/03/22
You put too much stock in the power of a console over the me...
big parlor double fault
  05/03/22
Have you played Earthworm Jim or Mortal Kombat on SNES? Or m...
fragrant menage
  05/03/22
I got a copy of MM64 from the bargain bin at goodwill a few ...
big parlor double fault
  05/03/22
What console were the Oddworld games on? Those are the Earth...
big parlor double fault
  05/04/22
PS1, shamefully. it became Xbox-exclusive after that haha
fragrant menage
  05/04/22
ME3 actually
Snowy confused gas station pistol
  05/02/22
Rightly or wrongly the shitty release got blamed on other fa...
big parlor double fault
  05/02/22
the moment-to-moment gameplay in ME3 is the best in the seri...
frisky slimy mood nursing home
  05/02/22
This is what I've heard. Supposedly the level of playstyle c...
big parlor double fault
  05/02/22
ME3 was fantastic until literally like the final twenty minu...
Self-centered Love Of Her Life Heaven
  05/03/22
the DLC is so good too (except Omega which is kind of lame)....
frisky slimy mood nursing home
  05/04/22
I read about the fan service party mission thing and found t...
big parlor double fault
  05/04/22
the writing in 3 isn't much worse (if at all) than the writi...
frisky slimy mood nursing home
  05/04/22
The overarching plot writing in 2 was worse than 1 for sure ...
big parlor double fault
  05/04/22
Which killed the franchise They literally had to apologiz...
Snowy confused gas station pistol
  05/04/22
games like that get worse as the in-universe stakes get high...
territorial coral useless brakes psychic
  05/03/22
2's ending was cool but I'd have liked the main villains to ...
big parlor double fault
  05/03/22
libs, women, skin suits etc https://www.reddit.com/r/pcga...
Maniacal cyan field
  05/03/22
Female game developers are occasionally very talented and cr...
big parlor double fault
  05/03/22
andromeda didn't deserve the hate it got
180 navy rehab shitlib
  05/04/22
it's definitely not a bad game, just not as good as ME1-3. r...
Concupiscible Ticket Booth Wrinkle
  05/04/22
What
big parlor double fault
  05/04/22
I enjoy bad games but I couldn't get more than a third throu...
big parlor double fault
  05/04/22
Did you enjoy Quest 64
fragrant menage
  05/04/22
...
things from the 90s/00s so ethereal and dreamlike:
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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:05 PM
Author: big parlor double fault

Brutal mismanagement of something that potentially had a lot of cultural staying power

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44442949)



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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:18 PM
Author: big parlor double fault

https://youtu.be/5b6qH48bslA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44443103)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:28 PM
Author: big parlor double fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44451202)



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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:06 PM
Author: heady walnut cruise ship ape

Huge hype leading up to it, nearly unprecedented for a video game

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44442959)



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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:07 PM
Author: big parlor double fault

Which is insane given that EA was keenly aware of the development hell that the game was stuck in

Iirc Bioware pulled dev responsibilities away from their primary studio (to have them work on Dragon Age) while dumping this half finished over-promised pile of shit onto Bioware Montreal, which was a reorganized "finisher" studio known primarily for shovelware at that time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44442976)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:31 PM
Author: fragrant menage

EA makes shitty games exclusively ime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44451228)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:33 PM
Author: big parlor double fault

We're talking about EA as publisher, not as an EA-created studio

Bioware was purchased by EA shortly before the ME2 release iirc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44451247)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:35 PM
Author: fragrant menage

That’s even worse. They just crack the whip on Nerds. I’m surprised “BioWare” ever made anything decent if EA owned them. I’ve always stayed away from their games just bc they’re similar to Other Games that already exist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44451263)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:43 PM
Author: big parlor double fault

Well the games got pretty bad after the release of 2 but up until then it was still largely (at that time) the studio that brought us Baldur's Gate and KOTOR. The writing for ME was typically interesting and occasionally thought provoking at certain points

The main plot is an enjoyable Space Bond (Craig bond) trek through interesting alien environments that often broach on good executions of high quality high concept scifi. They were pretty good games all in all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44451315)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:56 PM
Author: fragrant menage

But ME1 was exclusive to 360. It MUST be intellectually vacant imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44451398)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:58 PM
Author: big parlor double fault

You put too much stock in the power of a console over the media put into it

Unless it physically can't render the text necessary for it, good storytelling and writing can be found on most consoles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44451410)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 11:03 PM
Author: fragrant menage

Have you played Earthworm Jim or Mortal Kombat on SNES? Or mega man 64? It just feels wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44451429)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 11:20 PM
Author: big parlor double fault

I got a copy of MM64 from the bargain bin at goodwill a few months back and ended up playing it late one night

Extremely intense game, almost veers into a Glover or Nights into Dreams dreamscape experience at times

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44451538)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 1:29 AM
Author: big parlor double fault

What console were the Oddworld games on? Those are the Earthworm Jims of whatever that box was

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44452198)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 6:17 AM
Author: fragrant menage

PS1, shamefully. it became Xbox-exclusive after that haha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44452610)



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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:08 PM
Author: Snowy confused gas station pistol

ME3 actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44442984)



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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:11 PM
Author: big parlor double fault

Rightly or wrongly the shitty release got blamed on other factors and a series as popular and involved as ME gets a mulligan, for better or for worse. I also heard that the multiplayer in 3 was a lot of fun

Andromeda was the point of no return; people basically stopped talking about the franchise entirely after that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44443019)



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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:12 PM
Author: frisky slimy mood nursing home

the moment-to-moment gameplay in ME3 is the best in the series by a long shot, and still holds up well today

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44443032)



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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:15 PM
Author: big parlor double fault

This is what I've heard. Supposedly the level of playstyle customization in 3's MP was good

Unfortunately the gameplay in these is Gears of War c. 2008 derivative stuff imo and a franchise like this lives or dies on the strength of its storytelling, which Andromeda completely failed on every level from world building down to basic dialogue

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44443062)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:37 PM
Author: Self-centered Love Of Her Life Heaven

ME3 was fantastic until literally like the final twenty minutes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44451277)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 1:02 AM
Author: frisky slimy mood nursing home

the DLC is so good too (except Omega which is kind of lame). I love the mining asteroid mission so much, incredible atmosphere

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44452111)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 1:13 AM
Author: big parlor double fault

I read about the fan service party mission thing and found the dialogue in it cringe enough to not want to give it a shot

There was a yuge drop in writing quality between two and three---EA supposedly stuffed some unqualified women in somewhere and Bioware hired a few cowgog AVGN fat guys of their own to muck things up

Iirc this was around the time we started seeing the stuff we now know (and still don't understand) as Gamergate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44452157)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 1:22 AM
Author: frisky slimy mood nursing home

the writing in 3 isn't much worse (if at all) than the writing in 2. the loyalty missions in 2 seem good at first but it's incredibly stupid that nearly all of them boil down to "fix this guy's daddy issues". 2 is the worst game in the trilogy overall on a mechanical level too, just an absolute slog on higher difficulties

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44452181)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 1:27 AM
Author: big parlor double fault

The overarching plot writing in 2 was worse than 1 for sure but I thought that the dialogue much better than 1s. Lol I know what you mean, I think they used that 2-3 times throughout

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44452192)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 9:21 AM
Author: Snowy confused gas station pistol

Which killed the franchise

They literally had to apologize for how bad the ending was and release a DLC to try and fix it and the creative director stepped down

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44453047)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 11:04 PM
Author: territorial coral useless brakes psychic

games like that get worse as the in-universe stakes get higher

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44451435)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 11:18 PM
Author: big parlor double fault

2's ending was cool but I'd have liked the main villains to be something other than the robot harvesters and instead focus on character development more throughout instead of spending so much time hyping an already revealed threat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44451526)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 11:10 PM
Author: Maniacal cyan field

libs, women, skin suits etc

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/6067ku/bioware_statement_on_mass_effect_andromeda_lead/



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44451471)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 11:14 PM
Author: big parlor double fault

Female game developers are occasionally very talented and creative tbf

Jason Schreier did a very good article for Kotaku that laid out where the different elements of this game all went wrong: https://kotaku.com/the-story-behind-mass-effect-andromedas-troubled-five-1795886428/amp

His politics are spotty but he's still a 174 journalist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44451501)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 1:54 AM
Author: 180 navy rehab shitlib

andromeda didn't deserve the hate it got

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44452259)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 1:59 AM
Author: Concupiscible Ticket Booth Wrinkle

it's definitely not a bad game, just not as good as ME1-3. reasonably enjoyable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44452269)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 2:04 AM
Author: big parlor double fault

What

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44452279)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 2:04 AM
Author: big parlor double fault

I enjoy bad games but I couldn't get more than a third through this one

Obtuse, poorly designed crafting, atrocious dialogue, poorly conceived and written main characters, obnoxious quests and quest systems, etc. Company members leaking stuff to the press or forums that showed that so and so was aware of the state of the game pre-launch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44452278)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 6:18 AM
Author: fragrant menage

Did you enjoy Quest 64

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44452611)



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Date: March 8th, 2026 8:26 PM
Author: things from the 90s/00s so ethereal and dreamlike:



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#49726959)