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26 Clemson players opt-out of bowl game

Bowls are a joke
titus chicken
  12/16/25
I hate this shit
michael doodikoff
  12/16/25
you voted for this. what did you think would happen as you t...
prospero ano y luicidad
  12/16/25
he literally did
santa's top guy
  12/16/25
...
Nintendo Squanch
  12/16/25
SEC and the Big10 aren’t done yet. They have literal ...
titus chicken
  12/16/25
I actually only wanted a 4 team playoff. This 12 team thing ...
michael doodikoff
  12/16/25
Cr and it should be 3 or 4 SEC teams right
Nintendo Squanch
  12/16/25
Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, and Missouri sounds right.
Candy Ride
  12/16/25
3 SEC Teams, Ohio State, maybe one ACC school if the SEC has...
michael doodikoff
  12/16/25
"i wanted to ruin the traditional bowl structure. but n...
...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
  12/16/25
...
Candy Ride
  12/16/25
It's sad because the bowls don't mean any less than the used...
Nazca Redlines
  12/16/25
they mean less since none of them are competing for even a t...
sealclubber
  12/16/25
titcr
Scut Farkas
  12/16/25
Not a sportsmo, but why wouldn't they want to play in a bowl...
Brown Person of Interest
  12/16/25
Anyone going to the NFL doesn’t want to risk ruining t...
titus chicken
  12/16/25
not really an exhibition game any more than any game is an e...
sealclubber
  12/16/25
THEY ARE ALL EXHIBITION GAMES there is nothing inherently &...
santa's top guy
  12/16/25
your talking point isn't even a point. if you can't recogn...
sealclubber
  12/16/25
tfw sealclubber calls u dense
santa's top guy
  12/16/25
durr exhibition dense
sealclubber
  12/16/25
To be honest it probably has something to do with them sprea...
Artie Bucco, No Kids
  12/16/25
"ND’s Jeremiah Love was saying that factored into...
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
  12/16/25
He's gaslighting you guys. It really was "we are butt h...
michael doodikoff
  12/16/25
College football is just a job like anything else now at lea...
Nintendo Squanch
  12/16/25
the same economic factors that are helping to cause this sho...
.,.,.;;,;.,;:,:,,:,.,:,::,..;.,:,.:;.:.,;.:.,:.::,
  12/16/25
why wasn't this done after the FSU bowl debacle last year? ...
michael doodikoff
  12/16/25
You liked it plenty when the SEC was the only ones paying pl...
titus chicken
  12/16/25
ND paid players too - all of the big programs had ways to fu...
michael doodikoff
  12/16/25
...
Nintendo Squanch
  12/16/25
it is inevitable but the NIL currently has this retarded fig...
santa's top guy
  12/16/25
not a lawyer but seems plausible to argue that a player bein...
.,.,.;;,;.,;:,:,,:,.,:,::,..;.,:,.:;.:.,;.:.,:.::,
  12/16/25
Once you are ***NFL SECURE*** or ***BIG NIL SECURE*** you'd ...
Risten
  12/16/25
26 players on Clemson's shit team aren't going to NFL or goo...
The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT
  12/16/25
BCS was the best time for college football. sad.
barnabyjones
  12/16/25
How can you guys still take this shit seriously lol it's so ...
minotaur rapist
  12/16/25
WWE is very real. If it was rigged, then explain fan favori...
titus chicken
  12/16/25
...
Nintendo Squanch
  12/16/25
They're going to get together with the ND team and spend new...
Judas Jones
  12/16/25
Between the portal, NIL, kids refusing to play, superconfere...
The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT
  12/16/25
*they've destroyed
...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
  12/16/25
...
Nazca Redlines
  12/16/25
It was destroyed by the BCS and it just kept getting worse a...
Nintendo Squanch
  12/16/25
remember the idiots who thought the BCS was so bad that they...
...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
  12/16/25
The BCS was fucking bad. BTW FCS has had a 180 playoff forev...
Nintendo Squanch
  12/16/25
I could take a 4 or even 8 team MAX playoff but 12 is too ma...
The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT
  12/16/25
No its 180 having a big playoff. FCS lets every conference c...
Nintendo Squanch
  12/16/25
as bad it was, the BCS was way better all the shit that came...
...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
  12/16/25
The Rose Bowl was the only one with any prestige left. The r...
Nintendo Squanch
  12/16/25
i'd agree that GC started ruining shit before the BCS came a...
...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
  12/16/25
this whole mess started when the NCAA couldn't just figure o...
....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,.....,:,..,..
  12/16/25
the bowls have been gay meaningless jokes for maybe like 20-...
(*)>
  12/16/25
the NIL, portal, playoff, etc...benefit by team and make us ...
The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT
  12/16/25
is there any American institution that Obama didn't actively...
....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,.....,:,..,..
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:10 AM
Author: titus chicken

Bowls are a joke

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513249)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: michael doodikoff

I hate this shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513270)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:21 AM
Author: prospero ano y luicidad (🧐)

you voted for this. what did you think would happen as you turned the playoffs into march madness?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513276)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:26 AM
Author: santa's top guy

he literally did



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513292)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: Nintendo Squanch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513436)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:31 AM
Author: titus chicken

SEC and the Big10 aren’t done yet. They have literal 100% control of the playoff per the contract and want to expand.

But don’t worry, mid-sized private catholic independent ND is ruining the sport.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513306)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:08 AM
Author: michael doodikoff

I actually only wanted a 4 team playoff. This 12 team thing is ridiculous and I always maintained that position.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513520)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:14 AM
Author: Nintendo Squanch

Cr and it should be 3 or 4 SEC teams right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513535)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 AM
Author: Candy Ride

Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, and Missouri sounds right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513547)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:21 AM
Author: michael doodikoff

3 SEC Teams, Ohio State, maybe one ACC school if the SEC has an off year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513554)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 12:56 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


"i wanted to ruin the traditional bowl structure. but not like this."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513871)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:19 AM
Author: Candy Ride



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513546)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:20 AM
Author: Nazca Redlines

It's sad because the bowls don't mean any less than the used to. Even before the CFP and BCS, only 2 or 3 bowl games at most involved teams competing for a national title. Players still played for pride and for fun and for their teammates. That's all gone in the course of 10 years or so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513275)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:36 AM
Author: sealclubber

they mean less since none of them are competing for even a top 10 finish

relic of bygone era

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513320)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:38 AM
Author: Scut Farkas

titcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513466)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:23 AM
Author: Brown Person of Interest

Not a sportsmo, but why wouldn't they want to play in a bowl game?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513283)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: titus chicken

Anyone going to the NFL doesn’t want to risk ruining their draft status for an exhibition game. Add in players who are intending to transfer and don’t want to ruin their new NIL which is contingent on being healthy. It forms a real group foot a lot of people.

ND’s Jeremiah Love was saying that factored into their decision to decline a bowl. They thought it’d be a fraud to play the bowl game with 1/3 of the roster missing and have that game go on the record. The players wanted their last game played for the season to be a real game with the actual team.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513298)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:38 AM
Author: sealclubber

not really an exhibition game any more than any game is an exhibition game once you're out of the playoff hunt

a bowl game is presumably a game against a good team, at least

agree with your overall point, though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513326)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: santa's top guy

THEY ARE ALL EXHIBITION GAMES

there is nothing inherently "meaningful" about any game of football. it is just something to play and watch. the very *definition* of an exhibition.

sorry didn't mean to shout at you but this talking point drives me nuts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513332)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: sealclubber

your talking point isn't even a point.

if you can't recognize that some games have more value or different purposes than others, then you are just being dense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513417)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:12 AM
Author: santa's top guy

tfw sealclubber calls u dense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513420)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 12:45 PM
Author: sealclubber

durr exhibition dense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513817)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:44 AM
Author: Artie Bucco, No Kids

To be honest it probably has something to do with them spreading their nougat as a college student one more time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513336)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


"ND’s Jeremiah Love was saying that factored into their decision to decline a bowl. They thought it’d be a fraud to play the bowl game with 1/3 of the roster missing and have that game go on the record. The players wanted their last game played for the season to be a real game with the actual team."

i respect that. it's better than "we are butt hurt about missing the playoffs."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513433)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: michael doodikoff

He's gaslighting you guys. It really was "we are butt hurt about missing the playoffs."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513523)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:25 AM
Author: Nintendo Squanch

College football is just a job like anything else now at least players are getting some $

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513442)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:44 AM
Author: .,.,.;;,;.,;:,:,,:,.,:,::,..;.,:,.:;.:.,;.:.,:.::,


the same economic factors that are helping to cause this should be the same reason it's easy to fix. just have the NIL contracts impose massive penalties for skipping any game including a bowl game without injury.

probably inevitable too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513471)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:12 AM
Author: michael doodikoff

why wasn't this done after the FSU bowl debacle last year?

I ALWAYS SAID that paying players would ruin the sport, that they were coddled and got "enough" perks at the big programs, and I assumed there was backhanded payments to these players too. Even on xo there were lots of people like "but the players deserve to be paid."

Well here you go. Enjoy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513528)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 AM
Author: titus chicken

You liked it plenty when the SEC was the only ones paying players. Now that everyone pays we see results like ND blowing out UGA in playoff game and the committee keeping teams like ND out to save face.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513541)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:21 AM
Author: michael doodikoff

ND paid players too - all of the big programs had ways to funnel $$ from donors to the kids. One example that happens a lot - big donor car dealer owners "leasing" expensive cars to players for $1/year, etc etc etc

Stop gatekeeping.

Save face? ND was not a great team this year and did not deserve to be in the playoff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513550)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: Nintendo Squanch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513579)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:31 AM
Author: santa's top guy

it is inevitable but the NIL currently has this retarded figleaf where it cannot be "pay for play"

What you are technically paying them for is the right to use their "name image or likeness." It's not the right to require them to play on the field. This is why it's still amateur sports you see.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513578)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:04 PM
Author: .,.,.;;,;.,;:,:,,:,.,:,::,..;.,:,.:;.:.,;.:.,:.::,


not a lawyer but seems plausible to argue that a player being absent for his team's highest-profile game of the year reduces the value of his NIL significantly. anyways it's all probably moot in a few years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513909)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:06 AM
Author: Risten

Once you are ***NFL SECURE*** or ***BIG NIL SECURE*** you'd have to be retarded to risk major injury or defacing this property for a bunch of stiffs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513512)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 12:51 PM
Author: The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT

26 players on Clemson's shit team aren't going to NFL or good enough to get NIL they're just bitches.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513844)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:41 AM
Author: barnabyjones

BCS was the best time for college football. sad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513596)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 AM
Author: minotaur rapist

How can you guys still take this shit seriously lol it's so fucking over for college football it's about as "real" as the WWE at this point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513599)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 12:45 PM
Author: titus chicken

WWE is very real. If it was rigged, then explain fan favorite John Cena losing his last match?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513814)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 12:49 PM
Author: Nintendo Squanch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513833)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:48 AM
Author: Judas Jones

They're going to get together with the ND team and spend new years at a Steamworks lol'ing @ sportscucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513611)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 12:53 PM
Author: The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT

Between the portal, NIL, kids refusing to play, superconferences and this ever expanding playoff they're destroying everything enjoyable about CFB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513850)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 12:56 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


*they've destroyed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513870)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:06 PM
Author: Nazca Redlines



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513916)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:10 PM
Author: Nintendo Squanch

It was destroyed by the BCS and it just kept getting worse after. CFB peaked in the mid 90s imo and I'm not a Nebraska fan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513929)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:14 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


remember the idiots who thought the BCS was so bad that they demanded a playoff?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513943)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:21 PM
Author: Nintendo Squanch

The BCS was fucking bad. BTW FCS has had a 180 playoff forever with no problems

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513985)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:22 PM
Author: The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT

I could take a 4 or even 8 team MAX playoff but 12 is too many and talks of going to 24 are just dumb. The portal and NIL need to go and conferences need to be reset to 1990.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513993)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 2:02 PM
Author: Nintendo Squanch

No its 180 having a big playoff. FCS lets every conference champ into the playoff and it means way more teams have something to play for. And you get underdog runs like Eastern Illinois making the semifinal this year.

Yale even won a playoff game & kept it close against Montana State.

If you're a fan of Wyoming or UConn or whatever why would you give a shit about CFB in its current state, you're locked out of ever playing a meaningful game basically. It destroys fan interest in programs and harms recruiting, it should be a national sport not a regional cartel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49514131)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:24 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


as bad it was, the BCS was way better all the shit that came after

FCS didnt have a 100 year beloved history of bowls to ruin

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513999)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:58 PM
Author: Nintendo Squanch

The Rose Bowl was the only one with any prestige left. The rest were corporate slop

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49514113)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


i'd agree that GC started ruining shit before the BCS came along. that doesnt mean bowl traditions as pre-GC arent 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49514213)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:28 PM
Author: ....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,.....,:,..,..


this whole mess started when the NCAA couldn't just figure out a way for Michigan and Nebraska to play each other in 1997

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49514016)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:15 PM
Author: (*)> (i'm in your city)

the bowls have been gay meaningless jokes for maybe like 20-25 years now. although the cotton bowl and a few other New Years Day games were still meaningful for a while during early BCS.

NIL and the portal completely killed the vibe. but it doesn't seem like fans of the biggest teams (e.g., tOSU, the SEC schools, that's about it, etc.) are enjoying the season any less during the throws of the conference schedule but my only reference point is a few friends. i'm not on the message boards or anything like that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49513951)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:26 PM
Author: The Soo CR National Champions JUGGERNAUT

the NIL, portal, playoff, etc...benefit by team and make us better and I still want to go back to the old ways.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49514006)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:56 PM
Author: ....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,.....,:,..,..


is there any American institution that Obama didn't actively try to make worse?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WDuQe89kJM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810881&forum_id=2#49514103)