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millennials the last gen to torrent?

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Razzle-dazzle telephone hissy fit
  01/10/24
Last gen to know computer afaict
Insecure Fantasy-prone Location Yarmulke
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Razzle-dazzle telephone hissy fit
  01/10/24
it's pretty nuts that the generation glued to screens since ...
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Insecure Fantasy-prone Location Yarmulke
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Razzle-dazzle telephone hissy fit
  01/10/24
tbf there are like 5-10x as many zoomers as millennials majo...
racy ladyboy national
  01/10/24
I almost took offense to this remark Then just remembered i...
soul-stirring infuriating faggotry coffee pot
  01/10/24
enjoying the new shtick brother
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medicated roommate
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early millennial here with synology NAS running plex, can co...
flirting point
  01/10/24
You’re basically an Engineerbif you got DirectX to wor...
Awkward rehab
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Razzle-dazzle telephone hissy fit
  01/10/24
what's the most seamless way to torrent these days w/o expos...
Bonkers patrolman codepig
  01/10/24
i mostly use thepiratebay with a VPN on, transmission app fo...
flirting point
  01/10/24
tyft - i'm going to test this out. using transmission over v...
Bonkers patrolman codepig
  01/10/24
there are different ways you can set it up but i run plex di...
flirting point
  01/10/24
i'm all over this, going to research nas options. any you'd ...
Bonkers patrolman codepig
  01/10/24
you dont need ssd to stream, even 90+ mbps bitrate files. yo...
green philosopher-king
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flirting point
  01/10/24
ty - learned so much from this thread. looking at picking up...
Bonkers patrolman codepig
  01/10/24
Shield works great but you can also get an awesome micropc w...
Insecure Fantasy-prone Location Yarmulke
  01/10/24
ya but i have a remote shaped like a triangle, lmao.
green philosopher-king
  01/10/24
so i just bought an empty DS1621+ (on a black friday sale) a...
flirting point
  01/10/24
i was doing NAS for awhile and then i went all in and built ...
green philosopher-king
  01/10/24
sounds cool. i considered building a server but just didn't ...
flirting point
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download from piratebay and don't run executable files lo...
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Slate karate
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Histrionic territorial cuckoldry
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Razzle-dazzle telephone hissy fit
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Wow
adulterous multi-billionaire
  01/10/24
wtf. use private torrent sites and skip vpn. i have never ru...
green philosopher-king
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adulterous multi-billionaire
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Yeah. It’s pretty funny how Big Corpo defeated piracy ...
Slate karate
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Slate karate
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imo it should be gen x into '83 or '84. but younger people ...
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wonderful chapel stock car
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did IRC ever catch on with millennials?
bronze jew business firm
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twitter is based on IRC code.
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Razzle-dazzle telephone hissy fit
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scarlet liquid oxygen theater
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(Guy who was a part of a Pedo Ring)
Glassy hairraiser national security agency
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aphrodisiac autistic gunner
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pirating is fun, i have a 50 tb plex server on a 10 gig con...
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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:34 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle telephone hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271303)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:35 AM
Author: Insecure Fantasy-prone Location Yarmulke

Last gen to know computer afaict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271306)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:36 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle telephone hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271315)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:37 AM
Author: aquamarine casino pozpig

it's pretty nuts that the generation glued to screens since birth don't know fuck all about computers. i've heard that zoomer cs people are fucking retards about it too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271319)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:38 AM
Author: Insecure Fantasy-prone Location Yarmulke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271324)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:48 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle telephone hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271353)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 5:37 PM
Author: racy ladyboy national

tbf there are like 5-10x as many zoomers as millennials majoring in CS. there used to be some self selection for a base level of spergitude, then everyone realized you can fart out a react app and land a job

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47272948)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:42 AM
Author: soul-stirring infuriating faggotry coffee pot

I almost took offense to this remark

Then just remembered in my dorm there was

A guy downloading torrents sans encryption

(Too poor for VPNs? Could be, but still)

So zoomers know the gist, but it's as if

The art is half-remembered, so to Bards

Pre-dating Homer, all confused at letters

And only knowing how the "viewer" gasped

As if he were the victim of a blow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271335)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:53 AM
Author: Insecure Fantasy-prone Location Yarmulke

enjoying the new shtick brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271376)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:26 PM
Author: electric gas station candlestick maker

.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271533)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:38 PM
Author: aquamarine casino pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271582)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:58 PM
Author: Insecure Fantasy-prone Location Yarmulke

180 moniker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271688)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 10:12 PM
Author: geriatric painfully honest internal respiration



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47273910)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:38 AM
Author: medicated roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271322)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:48 AM
Author: flirting point

early millennial here with synology NAS running plex, can confirm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271355)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:57 AM
Author: Awkward rehab

You’re basically an Engineerbif you got DirectX to work in the 90s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271395)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:57 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle telephone hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271397)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:22 PM
Author: Bonkers patrolman codepig

what's the most seamless way to torrent these days w/o exposure to a bunch of viruses, etc?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271522)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:28 PM
Author: flirting point

i mostly use thepiratebay with a VPN on, transmission app for actual torrenting. download straight to plex server directory on synology NAS. use infuse app for playback through AppleTV/iPad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271542)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 3:45 PM
Author: Bonkers patrolman codepig

tyft - i'm going to test this out. using transmission over vpn to download top gun maverick. if it's really this simple, i'll set up the plex/nas.

can you explain the latter, a bit more? am i running a plex server on my pc and pointing to a directory on the nas for storage, or can a synology nas run the plex server itself?

*edit* lol - fhd movie downloaded in like 2 min



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47272492)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 3:55 PM
Author: flirting point

there are different ways you can set it up but i run plex directly on the synology NAS so that it's "always on" and not subject to the state of my computers. I don't run my torrenting app on synology cuz getting a VPN set up on a NAS seemed like a hassle, so it seemed more straightforward to just make sure the VPN was on on my main computer and torrent as needed from that. btw people on here have recommended alternate setups (such as "Seedboxes") but I haven't had the time to look into them and am happy with my current solution.

i use Infuse instead of the plex app for playback cuz it supports speeding up videos (yes yes I'm weird/autistic etc, thanks). infuse also has the advantage of doing "direct playback" so that it can just play whatever format, whereas if you use the plex app for playback there often needs to be a conversion that happens first.

overall i'm very happy with it and find that it meets all my COONSOOMING needs. i can do remote access when i'm traveling (through e.g. ipad) and also download videos offline. and i don't need to worry about streaming fees or shows i like getting yanked to another platform ever....it's all local

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47272533)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 3:58 PM
Author: Bonkers patrolman codepig

i'm all over this, going to research nas options. any you'd recommend that are primarily ssd versus spinning disk that also have plex support w/ hardware based accel?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47272546)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:04 PM
Author: green philosopher-king

you dont need ssd to stream, even 90+ mbps bitrate files. you will get more storage per $ from spinning disks.

i use nvidia shield tv pro as clients in my home. direct play. atmos, dv, hdr10+, it will play anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47272571)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:15 PM
Author: flirting point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47272612)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 5:36 PM
Author: Bonkers patrolman codepig

ty - learned so much from this thread. looking at picking up a qnap ts-464 + some disks to get this going.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47272938)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 5:45 PM
Author: Insecure Fantasy-prone Location Yarmulke

Shield works great but you can also get an awesome micropc with better statz for same price, like one of those Beelink units.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47272996)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 8:44 PM
Author: green philosopher-king

ya but i have a remote shaped like a triangle, lmao.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47273600)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:15 PM
Author: flirting point

so i just bought an empty DS1621+ (on a black friday sale) and put my own drives in it. i got 2 16TB drives set up in SHR (so 16TB effective storage). because this is a media server, i did not even consider SSDs due to cost considerations. i've had it over a year and am only now down to about 25% of storage capacity (i also do backups of my main Mac).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47272609)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 8:51 PM
Author: green philosopher-king

i was doing NAS for awhile and then i went all in and built a storage server that is on 24/7. server also handles home automation and home network. it has 8x8tb for storage, effective 59tb online, run by a supermicro jbod controller card (broadcom chip). it took awhile but i found software called stablebit drivepool which pools disks and presents as one drive, software striped, since it is slow moving data (media, backups, etc.) i am okay with this instead of raid or mirror. it also allows different make/model/capacity of drive and hot swap. since it is all one machine, i use crash42 small business crashplan which is unlimited cloud backup for $10 a month for one machine. i laugh that i backup over 30tb for $10 a month. i have been running this setup for almost 8 years now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47273631)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 10:08 PM
Author: flirting point

sounds cool. i considered building a server but just didn't want to deal with it at the end of the day. decided i really wanted a pre-configured solution. i also don't have the NAS backed up because the cloud solutions for NASes all seemed too spendy to be worth it for my use case and i can't be bothered with rotating USB drive shit for what's ultimately a server full of torrents

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47273890)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:34 PM
Author: wonderful chapel stock car

download from piratebay and don't run executable files

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271569)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:45 PM
Author: Slate karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271613)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:00 PM
Author: Histrionic territorial cuckoldry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47272551)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:02 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle telephone hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47272561)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:10 PM
Author: adulterous multi-billionaire

Wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47272591)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:12 PM
Author: green philosopher-king

wtf. use private torrent sites and skip vpn. i have never run vpn for torrenting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47272602)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:14 PM
Author: adulterous multi-billionaire



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47272608)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:37 PM
Author: Slate karate

Yeah. It’s pretty funny how Big Corpo defeated piracy by…providing increasingly easier and easier interfaces to Consume, to the point where the population is now too dumb to consume via any method other than the official retail interfaces for products

The System ended up…unironically working, actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271579)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:45 PM
Author: flirting point

hehe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271609)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:53 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle telephone hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271654)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 5:27 PM
Author: aquamarine casino pozpig



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Date: October 6th, 2025 1:50 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle telephone hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#49329257)



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Date: April 15th, 2026 12:56 PM
Author: Slate karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#49819369)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:47 PM
Author: Rambunctious field

imo it should be gen x into '83 or '84. but younger people have to know how to do this don't they?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271618)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:50 PM
Author: Galvanic jewess

Younger people do not know what a "folder" is:

"Garland thought it would be an easy fix. She asked each student where they’d saved their project. Could they be on the desktop?

Perhaps in the shared drive? But over and over, she was met with confusion. “What are you talking about?” multiple students inquired.

Not only did they not know where their files were saved — they didn’t understand the question."

https://www.theverge.com/22684730/students-file-folder-directory-structure-education-gen-z

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271636)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:50 PM
Author: Slate karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271637)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:53 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle telephone hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271653)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:55 PM
Author: flirting point

had a double-reverse big willie when i saw "File not found" and thought it was a xo fake news piece, until i realized that was the title of the article

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271666)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:56 PM
Author: Galvanic jewess



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271674)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:57 PM
Author: aquamarine casino pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271678)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:59 PM
Author: Insecure Fantasy-prone Location Yarmulke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271692)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 1:37 PM
Author: scarlet liquid oxygen theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47271919)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 2:07 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle telephone hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47272032)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:01 PM
Author: Histrionic territorial cuckoldry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47272553)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:19 PM
Author: Vivacious High-end Background Story Shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47272626)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:58 PM
Author: wonderful chapel stock car



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47272797)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 6:39 PM
Author: Rambunctious field

same

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47273199)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:22 PM
Author: bronze jew business firm

did IRC ever catch on with millennials?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47272639)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:24 PM
Author: electric gas station candlestick maker

twitter is based on IRC code.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47272651)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 6:03 PM
Author: racy ladyboy national

🧐

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47273076)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 6:59 PM
Author: talking passionate locus

Twitch chat is literally an IRC server that you can join with irssi etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47273277)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:30 PM
Author: talking passionate locus

I'm late millennial or early zoomer and still keep in touch with people I met on IRC around 2010

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47272675)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:32 PM
Author: Insecure Fantasy-prone Location Yarmulke

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47272681)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:57 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle telephone hissy fit

1800

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47272791)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 5:17 PM
Author: scarlet liquid oxygen theater

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47272849)



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Date: October 6th, 2025 1:54 PM
Author: Glassy hairraiser national security agency

(Guy who was a part of a Pedo Ring)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#49329286)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 8:45 PM
Author: aphrodisiac autistic gunner

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2068879&forum_id=2#47269675

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47273606)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 5:49 PM
Author: henna institution

pirating is fun, i have a 50 tb plex server on a 10 gig connection & have it automated to where it downloads basically every movie and show (except marvel shit) and share it with tons of people. Btw nobody watches movies on it i think everyone's attention spans have been destroyed

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Date: January 10th, 2024 5:57 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle telephone hissy fit



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Date: January 10th, 2024 10:06 PM
Author: Histrionic territorial cuckoldry



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Date: January 10th, 2024 8:45 PM
Author: aphrodisiac autistic gunner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2#47273605)