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rating poasters as bizarre classical music from the 20th/21st centuries

mostly solo piano.
opaque tantric sound barrier school
  01/17/26
requesting Chopin pls
Pale Excitant National Security Agency Meetinghouse
  01/17/26
Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to ...
opaque tantric sound barrier school
  01/17/26
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Green step-uncle's house athletic conference
  01/17/26
The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli --...
opaque tantric sound barrier school
  01/17/26
wild, ty!
Green step-uncle's house athletic conference
  01/17/26
There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: yo...
opaque tantric sound barrier school
  01/17/26
...
Cerise mad-dog skullcap toaster
  01/17/26
that kind of music generally sucks, but content
Cerebral Sooty Nursing Home Old Irish Cottage
  01/17/26
Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical f...
opaque tantric sound barrier school
  01/17/26
180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the u...
Cerebral Sooty Nursing Home Old Irish Cottage
  01/17/26
The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style...
opaque tantric sound barrier school
  01/17/26
but content tp
burgundy vivacious theater stage round eye
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high-end institution
  01/17/26
Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering...
opaque tantric sound barrier school
  01/17/26
Jcm here
mind-boggling hairy legs
  01/17/26
Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtu...
opaque tantric sound barrier school
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Cerise mad-dog skullcap toaster
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Talented Electric Furnace Selfie
  01/17/26
Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and o...
opaque tantric sound barrier school
  01/17/26
this is completely preposterous
Cerise mad-dog skullcap toaster
  01/17/26
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Talented Electric Furnace Selfie
  01/17/26
I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl
opaque tantric sound barrier school
  01/17/26
lmao
Cerise mad-dog skullcap toaster
  01/17/26
And the composer too. Almost forgot.
opaque tantric sound barrier school
  01/17/26
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Cerise mad-dog skullcap toaster
  01/17/26
This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out ...
opaque tantric sound barrier school
  01/18/26
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Multi-colored shrine
  01/17/26
Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: http...
opaque tantric sound barrier school
  01/17/26
Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant
Multi-colored shrine
  01/17/26
Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit...
opaque tantric sound barrier school
  01/17/26
I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt p...
Cerise mad-dog skullcap toaster
  01/17/26
I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's ...
opaque tantric sound barrier school
  01/17/26
180 thank you you used the phrase "obviously a cynical...
Cerise mad-dog skullcap toaster
  01/17/26
No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some ...
opaque tantric sound barrier school
  01/17/26
can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano y...
Cerise mad-dog skullcap toaster
  01/17/26
Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so ...
opaque tantric sound barrier school
  01/17/26
link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never...
Cerise mad-dog skullcap toaster
  01/17/26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs
opaque tantric sound barrier school
  01/17/26
ty
Cerise mad-dog skullcap toaster
  01/17/26
Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings o...
opaque tantric sound barrier school
  01/17/26
Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.
opaque tantric sound barrier school
  01/17/26
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Beady-eyed Cobalt Gas Station Half-breed
  01/17/26
"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahash...
opaque tantric sound barrier school
  01/17/26
...
histrionic chest-beating yarmulke parlor
  01/17/26
is this a compliment? are we friends?
Beady-eyed Cobalt Gas Station Half-breed
  01/17/26
This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.
opaque tantric sound barrier school
  01/17/26
I love you so much
Beady-eyed Cobalt Gas Station Half-breed
  01/17/26
...
histrionic chest-beating yarmulke parlor
  01/17/26
Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beeth...
opaque tantric sound barrier school
  01/17/26
...
amber menage really tough guy
  01/17/26
I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think...
opaque tantric sound barrier school
  01/18/26
do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth interesting te...
Green step-uncle's house athletic conference
  01/17/26
I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this partic...
opaque tantric sound barrier school
  01/17/26
understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is fr...
Green step-uncle's house athletic conference
  01/17/26
Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one ...
opaque tantric sound barrier school
  01/18/26
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Green step-uncle's house athletic conference
  01/18/26


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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:20 AM
Author: opaque tantric sound barrier school

mostly solo piano.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596192)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:23 AM
Author: Pale Excitant National Security Agency Meetinghouse

requesting Chopin pls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596197)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:27 AM
Author: opaque tantric sound barrier school

Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to an early 20th-century reintepretation of Chopin's etudes by Godowsky. Not particularly bizarre, just difficult to perform. Apologies in advance for any disappointment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuEa1XLEVSw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596202)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:24 AM
Author: Green step-uncle's house athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596198)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:29 AM
Author: opaque tantric sound barrier school

The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli -- to be performed with rage per the composer's instructions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_dn3ORLq6s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596206)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:05 PM
Author: Green step-uncle's house athletic conference

wild, ty!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596339)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:37 PM
Author: opaque tantric sound barrier school

There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: you either love it or violently hate it and think it's just noise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596419)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:03 PM
Author: Cerise mad-dog skullcap toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596874)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:26 PM
Author: Cerebral Sooty Nursing Home Old Irish Cottage

that kind of music generally sucks, but content

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596394)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:30 PM
Author: opaque tantric sound barrier school

Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan, but that's true of most composers with a similar style. Personally I can't stand any of his music. Enjoy! Just look at how pretentious the piece's title is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYMXbM0RCeU



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596404)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:45 PM
Author: Cerebral Sooty Nursing Home Old Irish Cottage

180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the unreadble notation and beyond pretentious title push it over the top

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597223)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: opaque tantric sound barrier school

The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style is taken to the point where I could create the same semi-random but pointlessly complex music despite me having no talent as a composer. That's why you can't take Ferneyhough or similar composers seriously. But they do want you to take them seriously. After all, Ferneyhough made it all the way to Stanford with this gibberish "music."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597685)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: burgundy vivacious theater stage round eye

but content tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597001)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:41 PM
Author: high-end institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596425)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:47 PM
Author: opaque tantric sound barrier school

Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering Sorabji's typically serious style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFZYqLqBHOc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596437)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:17 PM
Author: mind-boggling hairy legs

Jcm here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596525)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:18 PM
Author: opaque tantric sound barrier school

Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aR0naIp9eM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596530)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: Cerise mad-dog skullcap toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596884)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:20 PM
Author: Talented Electric Furnace Selfie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596538)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:55 PM
Author: opaque tantric sound barrier school

Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and one foot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyy3CRuMQnc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596865)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:22 PM
Author: Cerise mad-dog skullcap toaster

this is completely preposterous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596919)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:41 PM
Author: Talented Electric Furnace Selfie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596958)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:47 PM
Author: opaque tantric sound barrier school

I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596979)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: Cerise mad-dog skullcap toaster

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596985)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: opaque tantric sound barrier school

And the composer too. Almost forgot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596999)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:48 PM
Author: Cerise mad-dog skullcap toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597089)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 9:19 AM
Author: opaque tantric sound barrier school

This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out his "Innocent Prisoner" for piano and voice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LIw8ykSmGU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49598324)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:56 PM
Author: Multi-colored shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596869)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:59 PM
Author: opaque tantric sound barrier school

Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKfFaSWr4m0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596870)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: Multi-colored shrine

Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596948)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:50 PM
Author: opaque tantric sound barrier school

Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit of dissonance and complexity without devolving into randomness. Actually it goes too far, but there's much worse out there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596986)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:05 PM
Author: Cerise mad-dog skullcap toaster

I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt performance of John Cage's As Slow As Possible. Rate me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Slow_as_Possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596877)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: opaque tantric sound barrier school

I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's his "Phrygian Gates": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DixKnE9HqIU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596883)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: Cerise mad-dog skullcap toaster

180 thank you

you used the phrase "obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan" above and that is how I view Cage but others may disagree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596891)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:16 PM
Author: opaque tantric sound barrier school

No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some of his music is actually enjoyable. For instance, his pieces for prepared piano.

Ferneyhough, the fraud and charlatan, is just SPS with no redeeming qualities. It's just unnecessary complexity and near-randomness that ordinary people laugh at (and should).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596904)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:20 PM
Author: Cerise mad-dog skullcap toaster

can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano you enjoyed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596915)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:34 PM
Author: opaque tantric sound barrier school

Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so I don't remember specific pieces. The interesting ones had minimalist aspects IIRC. The problem with the recordings is the piano preparation and resultant sound varies wildly with each recording. So some recordings sound dull while others are more lively.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596940)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:36 PM
Author: Cerise mad-dog skullcap toaster

link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never been able to enjoy anything by Cage but I'm open to reassessing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596945)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:40 PM
Author: opaque tantric sound barrier school

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596952)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: Cerise mad-dog skullcap toaster

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596984)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:52 PM
Author: opaque tantric sound barrier school

Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings of Cage's works were my favorite.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596991)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:53 PM
Author: opaque tantric sound barrier school

Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596993)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Cobalt Gas Station Half-breed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596950)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:48 PM
Author: opaque tantric sound barrier school

"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahashi's recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbUgAXt75s8

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596980)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: histrionic chest-beating yarmulke parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597105)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:25 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Cobalt Gas Station Half-breed

is this a compliment? are we friends?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597348)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:49 PM
Author: opaque tantric sound barrier school

This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597403)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:24 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Cobalt Gas Station Half-breed

I love you so much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597475)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: histrionic chest-beating yarmulke parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597104)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:02 PM
Author: opaque tantric sound barrier school

Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beethoven's last piano sonata, for mechanical piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gyJkYWdWWo (gets interesting after about 8-10 minutes)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597137)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:00 PM
Author: amber menage really tough guy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597425)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:56 AM
Author: opaque tantric sound barrier school

I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think of anything more appropriate than Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 6 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Y1bZYi60M

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49598298)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:10 PM
Author: Green step-uncle's house athletic conference

do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth

interesting technique

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYtybgToH2Q&t=28s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597568)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:43 PM
Author: opaque tantric sound barrier school

I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this particular piece. Classical music snobs would probably thumb their noses at this piece, but the snobs can be ignored. All that matters is whether you like it.

The technique of modifying the sound of the piano by interacting with the strings themselves is not new. Henry Cowell first explored this around 100 or so years ago. John Cage took the idea further in his pieces for prepared piano, which I mentioned earlier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597648)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 9:45 PM
Author: Green step-uncle's house athletic conference

understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is from cage - i like this a lot more than him though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597813)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:54 AM
Author: opaque tantric sound barrier school

Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one of Cage's teachers, if I remember correctly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49598296)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 10:26 AM
Author: Green step-uncle's house athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49598425)