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Finished Watching The World At War (26 Ep 70s WW2 Documentary). Very 180

this has to be one of the best historical documentaries ever...
jade cerebral karate
  01/04/26
what did you learn?
amber tantric piazza
  01/04/26
my prior knowledge of ww2 is mainly: big big big 1) the jewi...
jade cerebral karate
  01/04/26
jews were persecuted? which country did that?
amber tantric piazza
  01/04/26
japan. too many BJC expats were raping their women that thei...
jade cerebral karate
  01/04/26
I once had to write a term paper in college on With the Old ...
underhanded cumskin
  01/05/26
in fact very very very badass tp
jade cerebral karate
  01/05/26
it's incredibly good The Great War from 1964 is equally goo...
Odious Very Tactful University
  01/04/26
just downloaded it tonight, and it's next for us. wife is su...
jade cerebral karate
  01/04/26
...
Odious Very Tactful University
  01/04/26
You forgot to link or say where to stream
180 knife
  01/04/26
no, i didn't forget. but here: https://thepiratebay.org/d...
jade cerebral karate
  01/04/26
I was being polite - you’re a useless faggot and your ...
180 knife
  01/05/26
Great contribution to this thread!
jade cerebral karate
  01/05/26
I made the single most important contribution to this thread
180 knife
  01/05/26
Unmitigated 180 It couldn't be made today because the sub...
Supple Indian Lodge
  01/04/26
*ken burns interviews AI ben franklin discussing how indian ...
jade cerebral karate
  01/04/26
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Odious Very Tactful University
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amber tantric piazza
  01/04/26
I saw parts of this as a kid. Some revisionist podcasts were...
Saffron cuckold
  01/04/26
one moment that sticks with me is curtis lemay defending our...
jade cerebral karate
  01/04/26
why? who cares imo they wanted total war and then they bitch...
amber tantric piazza
  01/04/26
tbf, the whole fucking war (plus ww1) makes you question hum...
jade cerebral karate
  01/04/26
WW1 battlefields really drive this home. The British took 60...
Lascivious dragon field
  01/04/26
jfc. it's just crazy to think these young guys were going in...
jade cerebral karate
  01/04/26
The Douaumont Ossuary really fucked me up. If you get into t...
Lascivious dragon field
  01/04/26
wow that looks scary -- the bones are on display? have yo...
jade cerebral karate
  01/04/26
Haven't been there, no. Yes, the unidentified pieces of 100,...
Lascivious dragon field
  01/04/26
Have you read guns of august
offensive circlehead
  01/05/26
Yes
Lascivious dragon field
  01/05/26
...
Drab cuckoldry state
  01/04/26
Lemay was 100% right and saved millions of lives.
yellow wild national security agency
  01/04/26
i know it saved millions of lives. but the way he said it wa...
jade cerebral karate
  01/04/26
Probably making him look bad intentionally. He was a politic...
yellow wild national security agency
  01/04/26
LeMay was one of JFK's biggest critics and was enraged that ...
talented library digit ratio
  01/04/26
Ok whatevs. The producers want to diwvredit him so take one ...
yellow wild national security agency
  01/05/26
LeMay was dumb. He was George Wallace's running mate in 1968...
talented library digit ratio
  01/05/26
isnt winning 5 states / 45 EVs / 14% outstanding for a 3rd p...
jade cerebral karate
  01/05/26
Wallace's goal was to win enough states to deny Nixon or Hum...
talented library digit ratio
  01/05/26
XO Lemay was a BUCKEYE
Lascivious dragon field
  01/04/26
no fucking way jew. dropping the bomb was the worst thing an...
buck-toothed bespoke stag film
  01/05/26
lmao where are you getting your numbers from?
titillating bat shit crazy pocket flask blood rage
  01/05/26
Read tennozan by George feifer. Okinawa is the definitive...
razzmatazz tan heaven
  01/05/26
Sarah Paine argues that using the bomb saved millions of Jap...
180 knife
  01/05/26
It's 180, no idea why it's so hard to find online.
salmon electric furnace
  01/04/26
see the torrent link above.
jade cerebral karate
  01/04/26
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exhilarant telephone
  01/04/26
i'd recommend two books about the Pacific Theatre: Eugene...
Maroon Chapel Elastic Band
  01/04/26
ty.
jade cerebral karate
  01/04/26
...
titillating bat shit crazy pocket flask blood rage
  01/05/26
ty
Adventurous Alcoholic Alpha
  01/05/26
cr, I don't remember if I finished it but what I remember wa...
ebony stage
  01/04/26
Daily Motion has them all: https://www.dailymotion.com/vi...
salmon electric furnace
  01/04/26
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x94t5kc?start=3001
salmon electric furnace
  01/05/26
I watched this all I learned was that Eva Braun was a babe i...
beady-eyed pistol
  01/05/26
There were much better random Aryan girls in the footage tha...
jade cerebral karate
  01/05/26
much better random Aryan girls in the footage tp
offensive circlehead
  01/05/26
She chunked up later in life but in her youth she was lithe ...
beady-eyed pistol
  01/05/26
wwop
jade cerebral karate
  01/05/26
The War at Sea is also excellent.
Bateful Step-uncle's House
  01/05/26
Bookmarked, ty
Insanely creepy whorehouse
  01/05/26
...
offensive circlehead
  01/05/26
looks like most of the series is on YT for free.. first e...
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  01/05/26


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Date: January 4th, 2026 9:01 PM
Author: jade cerebral karate

this has to be one of the best historical documentaries ever made. wife and i watched it over the past 1-2 months, and it's well worth it. everyone should watch this.

the footage is amazing. we've all seen plenty of ww2 movies, but seeing real footage is more dramatic than seeing hollywood sensationalism.

the interviews really make the series. it's utterly impressive how the production managed to secure interview with such high ranking people from all sides -- hitler's valet and hitler's secretary (who were literally in the bunker when hitler killed himself, the former who burned hitler's body), albert speer (nazi cabinet officer who was convicted at nuremburg), himler's #2, etc.

lawrence olivier is the narrator, but the interviewers really tell the story. the production really do a good job at telling the story through people who lived the war -- high ranking government people, rank and file soldiers, and civilians.

they also did a great job showing the german, russian and japanese sides of things in a fair way that made the viewer, not the production, be the judge of what's the truth so it didn't seem like pro-western propaganda.

wife's main complaint was that she didn't like how the storytelling wasn't chronological. the episodes are thematic. so the series moves back and forth in time. wife thought that harms the ability of the series to tell a coherent story from A to Z. i figured it's impossible to do a good job of covering a three-front war in strictly chronological order and didn't mind the editorial discretion to run the series topically.

all in all, everyone should watch this. i learned an absolute ton.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562716)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 9:04 PM
Author: amber tantric piazza

what did you learn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562721)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 9:17 PM
Author: jade cerebral karate

my prior knowledge of ww2 is mainly: big big big 1) the jewish story (nazi ideology, jews being persecuted, holocaust, etc), and 2) the US-centric version that i learned in ap us history and in major US movies (we stayed out of the war, pearl harbor, d-day, a-bomb).

i previously knew almost nothing about the pacific war. i'd heard the battle names -- midway, iwo jima, saipan, etc. but i had no perspective on what they were and how they happened and the chain of events and strategies and struggles of each country. i also didn't virtually anything about all proxy wars that the japs fought the west in -- phillipines, burma, etc.

i also knew very little about the eastern front and the battles in north africa. i knew the very big stuff on the most superficial level, but didn't know the details of these struggles and how they related to the overall global war strategies of the major players. i didn't really understand what anyone was doing in north africa until now.

aside from timelines and war x's and o's, i learned a lot of the social and human perspectives on the war told through the stories of people. you don't get this kind of stuff in the movies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562758)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 9:18 PM
Author: amber tantric piazza

jews were persecuted? which country did that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562763)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 9:20 PM
Author: jade cerebral karate

japan. too many BJC expats were raping their women that their pilots went kamakaze

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562769)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 2:26 PM
Author: underhanded cumskin

I once had to write a term paper in college on With the Old Breed (book HBO's Pacific series based on). Prof was an ex military nutfuck and I was able to secure an A- by repeating multiple times that the Marines at Okinawa were in fact very very very badass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49564357)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 2:48 PM
Author: jade cerebral karate

in fact very very very badass tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49564438)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 9:12 PM
Author: Odious Very Tactful University

it's incredibly good

The Great War from 1964 is equally good

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562741)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 9:18 PM
Author: jade cerebral karate

just downloaded it tonight, and it's next for us. wife is super excited.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562761)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 9:19 PM
Author: Odious Very Tactful University



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562766)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 9:14 PM
Author: 180 knife

You forgot to link or say where to stream

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562747)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 9:20 PM
Author: jade cerebral karate

no, i didn't forget. but here:

https://thepiratebay.org/description.php?id=78043272

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562767)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 6:12 AM
Author: 180 knife

I was being polite - you’re a useless faggot and your wife is obviously fat and gross

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49563358)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 8:59 AM
Author: jade cerebral karate

Great contribution to this thread!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49563474)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 11:20 AM
Author: 180 knife

I made the single most important contribution to this thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49563735)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 9:26 PM
Author: Supple Indian Lodge

Unmitigated 180

It couldn't be made today because the subjects interviewed are long dead, it covers the German perspective, and it's quite detailed and in depth.

With respect to the interviews: All history writing (and documenteries and lectures) is biased and incomlete. At least with works produced shortly after the events, like this one, we can hear directly from the sources. History content created later is largely an invention of its creator and probably laughably off the mark in most cases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562779)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 9:43 PM
Author: jade cerebral karate

*ken burns interviews AI ben franklin discussing how indian ideology influenced the revolutionary war*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562810)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 9:44 PM
Author: Odious Very Tactful University



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562813)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 9:47 PM
Author: amber tantric piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562819)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 9:48 PM
Author: Saffron cuckold

I saw parts of this as a kid. Some revisionist podcasts were covering it recently, but it was a painful slog to listen to all the whining about, "Why were the Soviets so mean to the Germans?" combined with "The Germans waged total race war on the Eastern Front because they were forced to."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562822)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 9:52 PM
Author: jade cerebral karate

one moment that sticks with me is curtis lemay defending our use of the bomb by saying that us troops were tired and emotionally worn out from all the tough fighting. obviously there's more to it than that, but i think he may have either put his foot in his mouth a bit or was quoted out of context. they used this quote juxtaposed with other powerful people talking about the necessity of the bomb and its implications.

i'm no shitlib pacifist and fuck the japs, but the use of the bomb really makes you question humanity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562831)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 9:58 PM
Author: amber tantric piazza

why? who cares imo they wanted total war and then they bitch when they get it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562840)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 10:02 PM
Author: jade cerebral karate

tbf, the whole fucking war (plus ww1) makes you question humanity. ww2 was brutal as fuck. so much senseless loss of life all around the world. the 20th century was truly a brutal century. mankind is fucked up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562852)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 10:08 PM
Author: Lascivious dragon field

WW1 battlefields really drive this home. The British took 60,000 casualties (20,000 KIA) in like two hours on the first day of the Somme offensive and went nowhere.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562875)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 10:16 PM
Author: jade cerebral karate

jfc. it's just crazy to think these young guys were going into some battle where there was a 90% chance they'd be blown the fuck up, e.g., getting across on land in some of these battles against japan in the pacific. i dont know how guys could not be cowards.

i know very little about ww1 other than the big hollywood movies like 1917 and all quiet on the western front. looking forward to the ww1 docu.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562902)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 10:18 PM
Author: Lascivious dragon field

The Douaumont Ossuary really fucked me up. If you get into this, def do a WW1 battlefield tour.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562910)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 10:22 PM
Author: jade cerebral karate

wow that looks scary -- the bones are on display?

have you been to this memorial village in france:

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/oradour-sur-glane-martyred-village

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562922)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 10:23 PM
Author: Lascivious dragon field

Haven't been there, no. Yes, the unidentified pieces of 100,000+ people blown apart by artillery and left to rot on the battlefield in Verdun until after the war's end.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562927)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 9:02 AM
Author: offensive circlehead

Have you read guns of august

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49563486)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 9:41 AM
Author: Lascivious dragon field

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49563535)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 10:19 PM
Author: Drab cuckoldry state



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562915)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 10:03 PM
Author: yellow wild national security agency

Lemay was 100% right and saved millions of lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562855)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 10:05 PM
Author: jade cerebral karate

i know it saved millions of lives. but the way he said it was that it ended the war a little bit quicker and got the troops home sooner bc they were tired.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562859)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 10:07 PM
Author: yellow wild national security agency

Probably making him look bad intentionally. He was a political animal aligned with kennedy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562868)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 10:11 PM
Author: talented library digit ratio

LeMay was one of JFK's biggest critics and was enraged that he wouldn't invade Cuba during the missile crisis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562883)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:51 PM
Author: yellow wild national security agency

Ok whatevs. The producers want to diwvredit him so take one of his typically gruff candid comments out of context and make him look dumb.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49564670)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 10:33 PM
Author: talented library digit ratio

LeMay was dumb. He was George Wallace's running mate in 1968 and told reporters he would consider using nuclear weapons in Vietnam. Wallace was humiliated and they finished a distant third in the election.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49565700)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 10:40 PM
Author: jade cerebral karate

isnt winning 5 states / 45 EVs / 14% outstanding for a 3rd party?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49565711)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 10:44 PM
Author: talented library digit ratio

Wallace's goal was to win enough states to deny Nixon or Humphrey a majority, thereby throwing the election into the House. He failed miserably, and many believe LeMay's comments were responsible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49565721)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 10:07 PM
Author: Lascivious dragon field

XO Lemay was a BUCKEYE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562871)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 12:03 PM
Author: buck-toothed bespoke stag film

no fucking way jew. dropping the bomb was the worst thing any country has ever done. its not even close. Offing half a million civilians because (insert bullshit reason) is insanity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49563853)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 12:04 PM
Author: titillating bat shit crazy pocket flask blood rage

lmao where are you getting your numbers from?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49563854)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 2:46 AM
Author: razzmatazz tan heaven

Read tennozan by George feifer.

Okinawa is the definitive argument for the bomb.

Lemay, of course, was a psychopath

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49563256)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 6:13 AM
Author: 180 knife

Sarah Paine argues that using the bomb saved millions of Japanese who were about to die from starvation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49563359)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 10:06 PM
Author: salmon electric furnace

It's 180, no idea why it's so hard to find online.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562864)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 10:08 PM
Author: jade cerebral karate

see the torrent link above.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562873)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 10:11 PM
Author: exhilarant telephone



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562882)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 10:15 PM
Author: Maroon Chapel Elastic Band

i'd recommend two books about the Pacific Theatre:

Eugene Sledge’s memoir, "With the Old Breed"

Richard Tregaskis, "Guadalcanal Diary"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562897)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 10:18 PM
Author: jade cerebral karate

ty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562906)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 4:08 AM
Author: titillating bat shit crazy pocket flask blood rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49563314)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 8:43 AM
Author: Adventurous Alcoholic Alpha

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49563466)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 10:16 PM
Author: ebony stage

cr, I don't remember if I finished it but what I remember was 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562899)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 10:33 PM
Author: salmon electric furnace

Daily Motion has them all:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x94t5kc

Go to 50:04 to see the genius of this production - they use the distant refrains of the "Wenn Wir Marschieren" marching song on top of videos of Germans surrendering outside Moscow to create a mood. Poignant as fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49562959)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 12:22 AM
Author: salmon electric furnace

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x94t5kc?start=3001

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49563181)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 2:24 AM
Author: beady-eyed pistol

I watched this all I learned was that Eva Braun was a babe in her prime. Cotdamn.

Combine with Albert Speer's postwar quote on her at Hitler's relationship. "She was for bed."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49563244)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 9:01 AM
Author: jade cerebral karate

There were much better random Aryan girls in the footage than this:

https://marcuse.faculty.history.ucsb.edu/classes/33d/projects/naziwomen/eva00000.png

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49563483)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 9:06 AM
Author: offensive circlehead

much better random Aryan girls in the footage tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49563489)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 11:45 AM
Author: beady-eyed pistol

She chunked up later in life but in her youth she was lithe and flexible hth. Typical ugly German face but that's how 95% of German women are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49563794)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 12:21 PM
Author: jade cerebral karate

wwop

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49563919)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:52 AM
Author: Bateful Step-uncle's House

The War at Sea is also excellent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49563296)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 8:24 AM
Author: Insanely creepy whorehouse

Bookmarked, ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49563445)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 9:04 AM
Author: offensive circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49563487)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 11:38 AM
Author: titillating bat shit crazy pocket flask blood rage

looks like most of the series is on YT for free..

first episode

https://youtu.be/0b4g4ZZNC1E

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2#49563773)