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Interesting Facts I learned watching Ken Burn's Revolutionary War

Fact #1. Boston used to be an island. Backbay was literall...
Outnumbered coffee pot forum
  11/29/25
huh. did they have a lot of little bridges back then? or ho...
marvelous saffron shitlib hospital
  11/30/25
There was one isthmus, so had the British come by land they ...
Outnumbered coffee pot forum
  12/01/25
...
marvelous saffron shitlib hospital
  12/01/25
yeah massive infill with trash and whatever else surprise...
Impressive charismatic jap
  12/25/25
...
yellow effete office halford
  11/29/25
Fact #2: Initially, only free blacks were allowed to join th...
Outnumbered coffee pot forum
  11/29/25
yer an idiot if you believe that’s why they didn&rsquo...
Orchid pit dragon
  11/30/25
What’s the real reason? They let them in very shortly...
Outnumbered coffee pot forum
  12/01/25
if you're a wealthy tea merchant or spice trader astroturfin...
Orchid pit dragon
  12/01/25
Underrrated
Irradiated green internal respiration dingle berry
  12/01/25
Sup, Noam
Outnumbered coffee pot forum
  12/02/25
Fact #3: Early in the war the Continental Congress tried to ...
Outnumbered coffee pot forum
  11/30/25
Wow all this shit about black people sounds really important...
mind-boggling locale hissy fit
  11/30/25
If not for blacks we would have conquered Canada.
bipolar bbw
  11/30/25
I see what you did there. I doff my cap to you, sir.
Outnumbered coffee pot forum
  12/01/25
This should not be a new learned fact. The U.S. fought the W...
Copper Orchestra Pit Chad
  11/30/25
XO Jackson would have words about that.
Nighttime Turdskin Reading Party
  11/30/25
Trump is gonna finish the job
Impressive charismatic jap
  12/25/25
Fact #4: Lord Dunmore declared that any slave owned by a reb...
Outnumbered coffee pot forum
  11/30/25
I thought the idea backfired when they all caught smallpox
Bearded coldplay fan
  11/30/25
All soldiers of all races suffered badly from small pox. An...
Outnumbered coffee pot forum
  12/01/25
Update: At the end of 1776, George Washington eventually rel...
Outnumbered coffee pot forum
  12/24/25
All of these are facts anyone who has read anything about th...
Swashbuckling crimson space
  11/30/25
oh wow you mean these aren't completely new facts that ken b...
yellow effete office halford
  11/30/25
really dumb criticism. OP is trying to create solid content,...
sadistic brunch
  12/01/25
Fact #6: the Iroquois created democracy and whitey stole it ...
spruce people who are hurt theater
  12/01/25
It’s funny, this claim has been getting traction on Tw...
Outnumbered coffee pot forum
  12/01/25
so the first few sentences of the series did not say that th...
Exhilarant Kitty
  12/01/25
That doesn’t bear any resemblance to what you’re...
Outnumbered coffee pot forum
  12/01/25
it unambiguously says that the Iroquois had a "democrac...
Exhilarant Kitty
  12/02/25
They did! And they formed a confederacy. You’re not ...
Outnumbered coffee pot forum
  12/03/25
it was a permanent ruling caste chosen matrilineally. if tha...
Exhilarant Kitty
  12/03/25
born Robert Peter Cohon
mind-boggling locale hissy fit
  12/01/25
Fact #5: The colonies were by far the least profitable colon...
Outnumbered coffee pot forum
  12/01/25
Fact #7: George Washington Carver's great-grandfather was a ...
Big hot mad-dog skullcap mad cow disease
  12/02/25
Pretty sad you guys just want to do racisms and not learn ab...
Outnumbered coffee pot forum
  12/02/25
?
Big hot mad-dog skullcap mad cow disease
  12/03/25
You forgot the super soaker
Outnumbered coffee pot forum
  12/03/25
...
yellow effete office halford
  12/03/25
Fact #6: I knew that rich drafted men could pay poor men to ...
Outnumbered coffee pot forum
  12/24/25
Fact #7: Washington mostly got outsmarted and outflanked for...
Outnumbered coffee pot forum
  12/25/25
Fact #8: George Washington really did want to exterminate th...
Outnumbered coffee pot forum
  12/31/25


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Date: November 29th, 2025 1:22 PM
Author: Outnumbered coffee pot forum

Fact #1. Boston used to be an island. Backbay was literally a bay.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1bn2n09/boston_land_reclamation_between_1630_and_1995/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49470245)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 8:25 AM
Author: marvelous saffron shitlib hospital

huh. did they have a lot of little bridges back then? or how did they get around

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49471669)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 5:18 PM
Author: Outnumbered coffee pot forum

There was one isthmus, so had the British come by land they could have been easily met by militia forces in a bottle neck. That’s why the British chose to come “by sea” and land their forces in Charlestown.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49475259)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 11:41 PM
Author: marvelous saffron shitlib hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49476232)



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Date: December 25th, 2025 6:36 AM
Author: Impressive charismatic jap

yeah massive infill with trash and whatever else

surprised thst flooding isn’t a bigger issue there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49538864)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 1:24 PM
Author: yellow effete office halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49470256)



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Date: November 29th, 2025 1:36 PM
Author: Outnumbered coffee pot forum

Fact #2: Initially, only free blacks were allowed to join the American forces. Enlisting slaves was seen as "awkward" because they kept saying the Brits were treating them like slaves. This was codified by the Massachusetts legislature.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49470300)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 9:20 AM
Author: Orchid pit dragon

yer an idiot if you believe that’s why they didn’t allow slaves in the forces

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49471689)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 5:13 PM
Author: Outnumbered coffee pot forum

What’s the real reason? They let them in very shortly thereafter. So they passed a law and then almost immediately changed their minds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49475232)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: Orchid pit dragon

if you're a wealthy tea merchant or spice trader astroturfing insurrection against an onerous tax regime, would you have an easier time convincing the agricultural southern elite to join your cause by demanding that they donate their tractors to the fight, or by telling them that the shitlib bostonians and poor ass backwater western pennsylvanians will absorb all the shrapnel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49475332)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Irradiated green internal respiration dingle berry

Underrrated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49476234)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: Outnumbered coffee pot forum

Sup, Noam

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49476781)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 8:10 AM
Author: Outnumbered coffee pot forum

Fact #3: Early in the war the Continental Congress tried to seize Canada, fully expecting that they could make it part of the new country. But the U.S. lost the Battle of Quebec City. If that hadn’t happened it’s possible all or some of Canada would be America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49471655)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 8:23 AM
Author: mind-boggling locale hissy fit

Wow all this shit about black people sounds really important.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49471668)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 8:26 AM
Author: bipolar bbw

If not for blacks we would have conquered Canada.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49471670)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 5:14 PM
Author: Outnumbered coffee pot forum

I see what you did there. I doff my cap to you, sir.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49475235)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 9:08 AM
Author: Copper Orchestra Pit Chad

This should not be a new learned fact. The U.S. fought the War of 1812 over the same thing—annexation of Canada—and the British sacked DC and the war ended technically in a stalemate (USA lost badly).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49471687)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 9:20 AM
Author: Nighttime Turdskin Reading Party

XO Jackson would have words about that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49471690)



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Date: December 25th, 2025 6:38 AM
Author: Impressive charismatic jap

Trump is gonna finish the job

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49538866)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 8:20 AM
Author: Outnumbered coffee pot forum

Fact #4: Lord Dunmore declared that any slave owned by a rebel who fought for the British would be freed. He formed a unit of several hundred runaway slaves called “The Ethiopia Regiment”. The idea backfired by more firmly uniting the states, especially the Southern States, against the British.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49471666)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 9:35 AM
Author: Bearded coldplay fan

I thought the idea backfired when they all caught smallpox

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49471699)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 5:16 PM
Author: Outnumbered coffee pot forum

All soldiers of all races suffered badly from small pox. Another fun fact is that Washington faced the difficult choice of inoculating all troops at once (and putting everyone out of commission for two weeks) or doing it piecemeal and risking outbreaks. They ended up just trying to quarantine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49475246)



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Date: December 24th, 2025 6:54 AM
Author: Outnumbered coffee pot forum

Update: At the end of 1776, George Washington eventually relented and all new recruits had to be inoculated prior to joining the army and this was one of his most consequential decisions, as army readiness soared once this program was in place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49536406)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 9:51 AM
Author: Swashbuckling crimson space

All of these are facts anyone who has read anything about the revolutionary war already knows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49471717)



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Date: November 30th, 2025 10:12 AM
Author: yellow effete office halford

oh wow you mean these aren't completely new facts that ken burns uncovered himself?

shut the FUCK up you know-it-all dweeb. i didn't know boston was an island.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49471741)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 5:15 PM
Author: sadistic brunch

really dumb criticism. OP is trying to create solid content, and content is what xo desperately needs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49475242)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 5:19 PM
Author: spruce people who are hurt theater

Fact #6: the Iroquois created democracy and whitey stole it before they raped and killed them all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49475262)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 5:28 PM
Author: Outnumbered coffee pot forum

It’s funny, this claim has been getting traction on Twitter, but it’s actually nowhere in the series. It’s a total made up straw man used by conservatives to attack Ken Burns, but he does not make this claim. He talks about Native American governance, but it’s actually very relevant and interesting as the Natives were a big wildcard throughout the war. The Cherokee kind of screwed themselves by briefly siding with the British.

The knock that’s valid is that he constantly returns to “what were the slaves getting up to”, but given how much research has been done on this period that’s the one area that is actually somewhat under explored and is new to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49475296)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 5:45 PM
Author: Exhilarant Kitty

so the first few sentences of the series did not say that the Iroquois had a "democracy," is that what you're saying? listen and see what you think.

https://x.com/adamkjohnston/status/1990986003293536716

funny irony: the Jewish narrator of the series adopted the name "Peter Coyote" after an entirely euro-American "plastic shaman," phony Native American led Peter to a faux spiritual path based upon a trip on hallucinatory drugs. then the "Coyote" went Zen and has never circled back to Native American culture.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49475358)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 6:09 PM
Author: Outnumbered coffee pot forum

That doesn’t bear any resemblance to what you’re claiming. It’s a total canard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49475427)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: Exhilarant Kitty

it unambiguously says that the Iroquois had a "democracy," which is plainly bullshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49477027)



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Date: December 3rd, 2025 7:15 AM
Author: Outnumbered coffee pot forum

They did! And they formed a confederacy. You’re not even understanding the claims. The claim that has people upset is that the U.S. confederacy and early democracy was modeled on the Iroquois. This is not the case and it’s not a claim Ken Burns actually makes. But it is true that Iroquois and other tribes used forms of democracy and representative government.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49479288)



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Date: December 3rd, 2025 8:18 AM
Author: Exhilarant Kitty

it was a permanent ruling caste chosen matrilineally. if that counts as a "democracy" then everything does.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49479345)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 6:11 PM
Author: mind-boggling locale hissy fit

born Robert Peter Cohon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49475435)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 5:30 PM
Author: Outnumbered coffee pot forum

Fact #5: The colonies were by far the least profitable colonies in the British empire. Britain was much more worried about losing the Caribbean colonies at the outset and so British public sentiment turned more quickly against the war than it would have had it really threatened the Caribbean profits.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49475304)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 12:08 AM
Author: Big hot mad-dog skullcap mad cow disease

Fact #7: George Washington Carver's great-grandfather was a freed slave who invented the musket, cannon, lantern, candle, and gunpowder.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49476260)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:48 AM
Author: Outnumbered coffee pot forum

Pretty sad you guys just want to do racisms and not learn about America

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49476778)



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Date: December 3rd, 2025 1:35 AM
Author: Big hot mad-dog skullcap mad cow disease

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49479158)



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Date: December 3rd, 2025 10:43 AM
Author: Outnumbered coffee pot forum

You forgot the super soaker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49479641)



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Date: December 3rd, 2025 8:25 AM
Author: yellow effete office halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49479354)



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Date: December 24th, 2025 6:52 AM
Author: Outnumbered coffee pot forum

Fact #6: I knew that rich drafted men could pay poor men to take their place, but sometimes entire towns would pay other towns to send men in their place, which sounds like something Shelbyville would do to Springfield.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49536403)



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Date: December 25th, 2025 6:21 AM
Author: Outnumbered coffee pot forum

Fact #7: Washington mostly got outsmarted and outflanked for the first two years. He was kind of learning on the job and he basically just loses city after city with a few victories where he catches the Brits by surprise. He actually loses more battles than he wins but his real legacy was the overall organization of the military and its overall strategy. He wasn’t like Napoleon, who was also a tactical genius.

Terrible reconnaissance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Brandywine

Overly complicated attack strategy ruined by fog: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Germantown

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49538856)



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Date: December 31st, 2025 4:03 PM
Author: Outnumbered coffee pot forum

Fact #8: George Washington really did want to exterminate the Indians, hated them, and explicitly used the war to drive Indians off their lands. Indians also knew and understood that this was what was happening, which is why most sided with the British. But that ended up ruining all of their legal and moral arguments against expansion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804097&forum_id=2#49552852)