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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Indigo Fiercely-loyal Public Bath
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Insane Slippery Party Of The First Part Friendly Grandma
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
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  05/29/25
Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
fishy kitty striped hyena
  05/29/25
(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
exhilarant obsidian school
  05/29/25
They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
fishy kitty striped hyena
  05/29/25
read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
exhilarant obsidian school
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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  07/13/25
what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Indigo Fiercely-loyal Public Bath

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Insane Slippery Party Of The First Part Friendly Grandma

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Insane Slippery Party Of The First Part Friendly Grandma

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Insane Slippery Party Of The First Part Friendly Grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Insane Slippery Party Of The First Part Friendly Grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Insane Slippery Party Of The First Part Friendly Grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Insane Slippery Party Of The First Part Friendly Grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Insane Slippery Party Of The First Part Friendly Grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Insane Slippery Party Of The First Part Friendly Grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Insane Slippery Party Of The First Part Friendly Grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Insane Slippery Party Of The First Part Friendly Grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: Insane Slippery Party Of The First Part Friendly Grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: Insane Slippery Party Of The First Part Friendly Grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: Insane Slippery Party Of The First Part Friendly Grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49128622)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
Author: Insane Slippery Party Of The First Part Friendly Grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49141968)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: Insane Slippery Party Of The First Part Friendly Grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49143857)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Insane Slippery Party Of The First Part Friendly Grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49156580)



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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM
Author: Insane Slippery Party Of The First Part Friendly Grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49172980)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49421817)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49421862)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49421881)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49422254)



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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49424474)



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Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49425035)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: exhilarant obsidian school

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: fishy kitty striped hyena

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: exhilarant obsidian school

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: fishy kitty striped hyena

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: exhilarant obsidian school

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Domesticated Stage

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Crawly amber dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Coiffed beady-eyed brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: misunderstood ceo

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: provocative internet-worthy voyeur shitlib

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: french factory reset button

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Domesticated Stage

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: iridescent hairraiser filthpig

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Diverse salmon love of her life chad

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Blue alcoholic sanctuary gunner

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49105022)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49421865)