"AI" is borderline just a scam now lol
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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:06 AM Author: Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck
guys like altman are just knowingly lying about current and future projected capabilities. it's really obvious by now that LLMs are not going to make any more qualitative leaps, and the "scaling hypothesis" no longer holds
i'm not saying that LLMs won't keep getting marginally better, and that people will find very useful ways of implementing them in practice - they will. but any talk of "AGI" or generalized capabilities in LLMs is at this point knowingly and deliberately misleading and meant to deceive the public and investors
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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:02 AM Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)
SV is a uniquely scammy culture where tech cos have been allowed to huck futuristic bullshit to a public and a market that doesn't fully understand the tech and is desperate for something to speculate on. Compare this to say, the biotech or pharma fields, where they could theoretically do the same thing but the regulatory environment is oppressive enough to where it's reigned in the culture, so ppl shy away from hype even if that hype wouldn't actually get you cracked down on. (I always say that if Elizabeth Holmes had just stuck to SV bread and butter instead of making a fake blood testing machine, she'd 100% be a billionaire, and probably have moved on to CEO of an incumbent firm, today.)
As big a problem as (maybe bigger than) the technologists themselves is VC. The firms VCs invest in aren't publicly traded, so there's no opportunity to short, resulting in a field where no one shits on anyone else's investment and it's a pure one-way positive feedback loop. Venture capitalists are known to get catty and defensive as fuck at the most gentle/accidental passing criticism from other VCs, because that's not how the game is played and everyone should know that a rising tide of hype raises all fraud ships.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2#49462432) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 11:11 AM Author: Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck
Ilya Sutskever's new company has 30 billion in VC funding and when asked how they are going to make money, he straight up did not have any answer. didn't even pretend like they had a plan
meanwhile actual american businesses in industries that actually make and do important stuff can't get any funding at all
"private equity" sure seems like nothing more than an entire "industry" of pump and dump scamming
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2#49462450) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:59 PM
Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;
Um yeah it has already. A handful of things actually. Junior associates at law firms, entry level accountants, project managers, customer service reps, translators, junior copywriters, early career MBA excel jockeys and junior programmers. It should eventually replace K-12 or at least K-8 teachers, but the unions will slow that process down.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2#49462771) |
Date: November 26th, 2025 11:13 AM
Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,
So good for us regular people who need to stay employed?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2#49462458) |
Date: November 26th, 2025 11:47 AM Author: Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck
https://x.com/GoySuperstar/status/1993719651495547061
btw i was completely right about models being specifically RL trained to perform on evals, and that's the reason why they're performing increasingly well on evals while overall capabilities are stagnating (duh)
machine learning pumo here didn't believe me, but now we've got the leading guys in the industry admitting it outright
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2#49462562) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:34 PM Author: Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck
well, LLMs *aren't* trained on the entirety of human knowledge. that's the point. they're trained on the stuff in their training data (a bunch of words that definitely don't include all human knowledge)
for example, in l*w: LLMs do a pretty good job, actually, of evaluating and "reasoning" about cases that have the same structure as other cases in their training data. but any remotely novel kind of legal case, and they totally fail
humans *can* generalize, at least to a far greater extent than LLMs. we can see a completely novel legal case and reason about it pretty well. we can create a mental model of the whole case and think about it accurately and coherently. LLMs can't do that at all
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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:55 PM Author: Hallmark Channel white chad driving pickup truck
they can't generalize to all legal cases
they just can't do this, you can try it yourself
making shit up that doesn't work and doesn't make sense is not "generalization"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2#49462760) |
Date: November 26th, 2025 12:48 PM Author: Smoker
It’s just too spammy right now. Everything feels slightly off
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2#49462741)
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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:49 PM Author: dj clue
many products are scams for sure. However there are lots that are incredibly useful. I use the following on a daily basis:
NotebookLM
AI call notetaking (Otter or similar)
Claude/ChatGPT/Gemini projects for doing first drafts of stuff where I simply want to drop in voluminious notes/documents and let it do what it do
More broadly, AI is going to be game-changing in may fields, particularly science. It analyzes the literature on a subject and analyzes experimental data much more quickly than previous methods. I'm also told it can design novel drugs/enzymes/ etc. I expect the pace of scientific advances to increase, with unpredictable results.
I expect the capabilities of AI within current use cases will get better, and that new use cases will emerge. I still think it's going to eliminate the need for a lot of human mental work, with unpredictable consequences
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2#49462743) |
Date: November 26th, 2025 1:09 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,......,;:.,.:..:.,:,::,.
It's interesting how cynical so much of the board is about AI when it seems obvious to just about everyone else that this technology will transform life as we know it within the next 5-10 years. I know it's the tone of the board to knock down everything conventional wisdom supports, but that instinct is wrong in this case.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2#49462806) |
Date: November 26th, 2025 1:29 PM Author: tats
"AI" is just freshman linear algebra, sophomore statistics and $1 trillion in wasted electricity.
Notice the leaps these charlatans make in describing their product.
AGI (like the stat in warcraft) used to be AI used to be Machine 'Learning' used to be Linear Regression.
Name ONE (uno) (1) novel invention or one nontrivial scientific discovery that is for the benefit of humanity and is not sophistry.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2#49462865) |
Date: November 26th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;
I do think the “agents” moment is pretty open ended at this point. It’s conceivable that models and product evolution will get to a point that an agent can be easily trained to do a lot of useful stuff, but as of today it’s a sufficiently labor intensive and hyperiterative guess and check type of process that it’s not likely to spread far outside of AI evangelist circles. To me the parallels to the e-commerce adoption process between 99-2012 are still the best analogy and though it might not be quite as slow a process I suspect most of the grand visions that evangelists love to project is a 2030s timeline after some correction and on the far side of a period where both the models and app companies prove they can survive and chart a course to durable and substantial profitability, just like we saw with dotcoms/ecommerce and social media and cloud and rideshare apps and streaming.
Just comparing to ecommerce there were these secondary and tertiary problems that had to be properly solved re logistics infrastructure, global supply chains, payment systems, digital marketing and advertising, compute infrastructure etc. that spurred all sorts of massive innovations and spawned entirely new lines of business that were even more profitable and strategic, and that’s before you even get into the massive benefit that accrued to a company like Amazon when the iPhone came along/was so good and mobile quickly became the primary use case. We’re in the 99-00 phase of the investment hype cycle but AI companies are already working out various solutions to eg the energy demand problem as a macro limitation, but it’s problems along those lines that need to be credibly and durably solved to unlock adoption and implementation levels that will actually justify the current insane levels of investment.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5802800&forum_id=2#49462867) |
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